tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post8895372476495916212..comments2024-03-18T05:15:30.666-04:00Comments on Foma*: Pregnant Pauseyellojkthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09592683505688819187noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-17358117117762298132008-01-09T22:41:00.000-05:002008-01-09T22:41:00.000-05:00And trusty, your girls will do some stupid things,...And trusty, your girls will do some stupid things, just like my son has done some stupid things. We can't guard them against everything and I think movies like Juno arm kids against peer pressure by making these topics public. Being able to say I don't want to end up like Juno could be a good deterrent.yellojkthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09592683505688819187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-40827959953454108232008-01-09T22:39:00.000-05:002008-01-09T22:39:00.000-05:00Since it's my blog, I'll weigh in too. Shotgun wed...Since it's my blog, I'll weigh in too. Shotgun weddings are extremely patriarchal, but we need to do something about too many undereducated single mothers. I think its a shame that adoption has become such a last resort option.yellojkthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09592683505688819187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-68038928565548976062008-01-09T22:25:00.000-05:002008-01-09T22:25:00.000-05:00trusty getto... you should see the movie then. The...trusty getto... you should see the movie then. There is no <I>underlying</I> tragedy. The tragedy's all out there, believe me; not underlying at all. That's what makes it such a good movie.TBGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04671397846105100809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-28796512372840743332008-01-09T16:42:00.000-05:002008-01-09T16:42:00.000-05:00OK, first I think I need to mention that your midl...OK, first I think I need to mention that your midlife crisis is way scarier than mine. You don't see me writing about teenyboppers' sex lives. (-:<BR/><BR/>Obviously the shotgun weddings weren't such a smart idea; they're probably the reason that the divorce rate skyrocketed all of a sudden when the Women's Lib movement became front-page news. Consciousnesses were raised, women decided that they weren't property after all, and they got the hell out. <BR/><BR/>Cham makes a good point about the way males are posed as being relatively useless these days. Men are subjected to being part of images in popular culture that would infuriate any minority group. Is this payback? Maybe. But that doesn't make it right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-64728709431162357612008-01-09T13:33:00.000-05:002008-01-09T13:33:00.000-05:00I haven't seen Juno (and probably won't -- I don't...I haven't seen Juno (and probably won't -- I don't get to go to movies all that much), but I must admit that when I first heard of its premise, it gave me the willies. I don't mean this in a self-righteous way, and I'm biased having two daughters, but no matter how well it's done, I don't want to watch on the silver screen a 16 year old get pregnant, carry the child to term and then give it away. The underlying tragedy of the situation (again, just for me - not trying to be self-righteous) with a young woman going through that experience instead of doing things most young women enjoy seems hard to cover up with witty dialogue.<BR/><BR/>It's probably just me. I can suspend my disbelief long enough to enjoy the Transformers and crap like that, but Juno makes me uncomfortable.trusty gettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428191762443615975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-66478546146968417022008-01-09T10:20:00.000-05:002008-01-09T10:20:00.000-05:00Well, I could trot out a whole bunch of evidence t...Well, I could trot out a whole bunch of evidence that shows that teen pregnancy is not such a terrible, horrific thing. And that abstinence-only education is a crock and leads to MORE unprotected sex.<BR/><BR/>Of course shotgun weddings are a terrible idea! They say it's ok to treat women like property. We're past that at least, right?Jamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17328884172511150275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-56609363394990553102008-01-09T08:43:00.000-05:002008-01-09T08:43:00.000-05:00Teen pregnancy used to be shameful, now our cultur...Teen pregnancy used to be shameful, now our culture has turned it into cuteness. In the movies these days the impregnator male is always a hapless teen who made a mistake. In reality it is an older guy desperate to get laid who preys on teen girls with questionable self-esteem.<BR/><BR/>But all that really isn't my point. Women have jobs now, good jobs. Women run for president. Women get mortgages, women pay their bills. Women can have babies, with or without a baby daddy. It's hip, it's cool, it's the thing to do. <BR/><BR/>Men are becoming obsolete.Chamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06353036103471800904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-6168601869152513952008-01-08T23:49:00.000-05:002008-01-08T23:49:00.000-05:00Not sure what "used*to*be*me" means by "honor and ...Not sure what "used*to*be*me" means by "honor and respect," but I think a lot of shotgun marriages came about because the shotgun-wielder didn't want his pregnant, unmarried daughter to embarrass the family name. That's a sort of honor and respect, I suppose...but certainly not for the daughter, the father, or the baby. I certainly hope no one's serious in thinking that compelling two people to live together, theoretically forever, is a good idea unless they think it's a good idea. Children are harmed by having parents stay together who clearly do not want to do so. (I say this from experience.) Child support - that should be compelled, yes. But marriage? Insane idea.<BR/><BR/>Actually I think it's pretty much insane for people to get married without having lived together. I mean, you're expecting to spend your whole life with someone you've never lived with - or even, in the most conservative version, had sex with? What: compatibility in living styles and sexuality is just unimportant? That's nuts.2fshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17813487704459856169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-9416316509918781232008-01-08T18:58:00.000-05:002008-01-08T18:58:00.000-05:00I really liked Juno too. I saw Waitress and I did...I really liked Juno too. I saw Waitress and I didn't really like it as much as I thought I would... It made me sad that she let her husband treat her that way, even though in the end, she got out of the relationship.Most Prepossessinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309497393339620812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-37559525555882116752008-01-08T18:40:00.000-05:002008-01-08T18:40:00.000-05:00I keep seeing commercials for Juno. I guess I'll h...I keep seeing commercials for Juno. I guess I'll have to go see it. I hear nothing but good. I'll put Slam on my list of reads to do. <BR/><BR/>As for the other, I think that back in the day of shotgun weddings, honor and respect had a lot more to do with the equation. Not that I would marry off my kid, then I'd have to feed her, the baby AND him. Ug.Stella Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14377490722474048852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-44016076165771496832008-01-08T17:57:00.000-05:002008-01-08T17:57:00.000-05:00Juno just reeks of quirkiness and despite its some...Juno just reeks of quirkiness and despite its sometimes bitter sharp dialog is surprisingly sweet.yellojkthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09592683505688819187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11920826.post-31776500505812598742008-01-08T17:38:00.000-05:002008-01-08T17:38:00.000-05:00I loved Juno, its honesty, its embarassment, its q...I loved Juno, its honesty, its embarassment, its quirkiness. And I'm looking forward to reading Slam, as much for the fact that it's new Nick Hornby as the subject matter.HRH Courtney, Queen of Everythinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019876055788862713noreply@blogger.com